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泰伯第八 · chapter 11 · not yet coveredEven with the talents and fine qualities of the Duke of Zhou…

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子曰:如有周公之才之美,使驕且吝,其餘不足觀也已。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 112 of the base edition.

The Master said: Even with the talents and fine qualities of the Duke of Zhou, if a man were arrogant and stingy, the rest would not be worth looking at.

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What this chapter says

一孔按:就算有周公那样的才,只要骄傲又吝啬,其余也不值一看。骄是夸自己,吝是不肯给人,两样根子相通。常有人问:“如有周公之才之美,使骄且吝”,骄和吝为什么放在一起说?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说:即便有周公那样出众的才能,只要骄傲又吝啬,其余的也就不值一看了。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

“如有周公之才之美,使骄且吝”,骄和吝为什么放在一起说?

注Key words in the commentary

才美,谓智能技艺之美。骄,矜夸。吝,鄙啬也。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:如有周公之“才美,谓智能技艺之美。骄,矜夸。吝,鄙啬也。”page 112
子曰:如有周公之“此甚言骄吝之不可也。盖有周公之德,则自无骄吝;若但有周公之才而骄吝焉,亦不足观矣。”page 112
子曰:如有周公之“骄吝虽有盈歉之殊,然其势常相因。盖骄者吝之枝叶,吝者骄之本根。故尝验之天下之人,未有骄而不吝,吝而不骄者也。”page 112

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 四

“周公者,周公旦也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 2 p. 71About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“假如才能的美妙真比得上周公,只要骄傲而吝啬,…”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“若有人能有像周公的才那样美,只要他兼有着骄傲与吝啬,…”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled即有周公之才,骄吝亦不足观;朱明确才不同于德,不可据假设说周公实际骄吝。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同区分周公才美与德,虽才美若骄吝仍不足观。钱将骄吝落在恃才凌人、私才不及人,朱以矜夸鄙啬及气盈歉说明。

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