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子罕第九 · chapter 17 · not yet coveredI have never seen anyone who loves virtue as much as he loves…

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子曰:吾未見好德如好色者也。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 125 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 9.18.

The Master said: I have never seen anyone who loves virtue as much as he loves beauty.

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What this chapter says

一孔按:孔子说我没见过爱德像爱色那样的人。爱色是真心的,爱德也要到那样真才算,可惜少有人做到。常有人问:“吾未见好德如好色者也”,孔子为什么说这句话?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说:我还没见过喜爱德行像喜爱美色那样真切的人。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Connections

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Close reading and checking

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常The common reading

“吾未见好德如好色者也”,孔子为什么说这句话?

注Key words in the commentary

史记:孔子居卫,灵公与夫人同车,使孔子为次乘,招摇市过之。孔子丑之,故有是言。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:吾未见好德“好好色,恶恶臭,诚也。好德如好色,斯诚好德矣,然民鲜能之。”page 125
子曰:吾未见好德“史记:孔子居卫,灵公与夫人同车,使孔子为次乘,招摇市过之。孔子丑之,故有是言。”page 125

见Cross-references

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 五

“時人多好色而無好德者也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 15About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“我没有见过好德能像好色般的人呀。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同叹好德不如好色之诚。钱认为不必专为卫灵公南子同车而发;朱引史记此事作发言缘起。

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