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子罕第九 · chapter 3 · not yet coveredA linen cap is the ritual

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子曰:麻冕,禮也;今也純,儉。吾從眾。拜下,禮也;今拜乎上,泰也。雖違眾,吾從下。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 117 of the base edition.

The Master said: A linen cap is the ritual; now silk is used, which is more frugal, and I follow the majority. Bowing below the hall is the ritual; now people bow above it, which is presumptuous. Though it goes against the majority, I bow below.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:麻冕改丝冕,省俭,孔子从众;拜于堂下改拜于堂上,是骄慢,孔子不从众。分界在于:变的是节俭还是变的是敬。常有人问“麻冕改丝孔子从众,拜于堂上孔子却不从众,分界在哪”,上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说:用细麻织礼帽,是古礼;如今改用丝织,省工省料,我跟从大家。臣下拜见君主先在堂下行拜,是古礼;如今直接上堂才拜,那是傲慢。虽然和众人不同,我还是坚持在堂下拜。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

麻冕改丝孔子从众,拜于堂上孔子却不从众,分界在哪?

注Key words in the commentary

麻冕,缁布冠也。纯,丝也。俭,谓省约。缁布冠,以三十升布为之,升八十缕,则其经二千四百缕矣。细密难成,不如用丝之省约。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:麻冕,礼也“麻冕,缁布冠也。纯,丝也。俭,谓省约。缁布冠,以三十升布为之,升八十缕,则其经二千四百缕矣。细密难成,不如用丝之省约。臣与君行礼,当拜于堂下。君辞之,乃升成拜。泰,骄慢也。”page 117—118
虽违众,吾从下。“君子处世,事之无害于义者,从俗可也;害于义,则不可从矣。”page 118

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 五

“云麻冕禮也者,禮謂周禮也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 4About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“礼帽用麻料来织,这是合于传统的礼的;今天大家都用丝料,…”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“麻冕是古礼,现在改用黑丝作冕,比麻冕节省了,我从众,…”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》麻冕word sensesettled杨疑等于缁布冠说,朱定为缁布冠;从俭与不从骄泰之别相合,非凡俗皆从。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以丝代麻无害礼义可从众,拜上骄泰有损敬不可从。钱对拜下升拜礼史并陈两说,朱取拜下辞乃升成拜。

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