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子曰:麻冕,禮也;今也純,儉。吾從眾。拜下,禮也;今拜乎上,泰也。雖違眾,吾從下。The Master said: A linen cap is the ritual; now silk is used, which is more frugal, and I follow the majority. Bowing below the hall is the ritual; now people bow above it, which is presumptuous. Though it goes against the majority, I bow below.
What this chapter says
一孔按:麻冕改丝冕,省俭,孔子从众;拜于堂下改拜于堂上,是骄慢,孔子不从众。分界在于:变的是节俭还是变的是敬。常有人问“麻冕改丝孔子从众,拜于堂上孔子却不从众,分界在哪”,上面是一孔录的回答。
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白Plain Chinese
孔子说:用细麻织礼帽,是古礼;如今改用丝织,省工省料,我跟从大家。臣下拜见君主先在堂下行拜,是古礼;如今直接上堂才拜,那是傲慢。虽然和众人不同,我还是坚持在堂下拜。
Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.
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Close reading and checking
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常The common reading
麻冕改丝孔子从众,拜于堂上孔子却不从众,分界在哪?
注Key words in the commentary
麻冕,缁布冠也。纯,丝也。俭,谓省约。缁布冠,以三十升布为之,升八十缕,则其经二千四百缕矣。细密难成,不如用丝之省约。
核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line
Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition
| Line | Quoted text | Page |
|---|---|---|
| 子曰:麻冕,礼也 | “麻冕,缁布冠也。纯,丝也。俭,谓省约。缁布冠,以三十升布为之,升八十缕,则其经二千四百缕矣。细密难成,不如用丝之省约。臣与君行礼,当拜于堂下。君辞之,乃升成拜。泰,骄慢也。” | page 117—118 |
| 虽违众,吾从下。 | “君子处世,事之无害于义者,从俗可也;害于义,则不可从矣。” | page 118 |
家Other commentaries
Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.
皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 五
“云麻冕禮也者,禮謂周禮也。”……
Compared with Zhu Xi
| Commentary | Point | Relation | Confidence | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 杨伯峻《论语译注》 | 麻冕 | word sense | settled | 杨疑等于缁布冠说,朱定为缁布冠;从俭与不从骄泰之别相合,非凡俗皆从。 |
| 钱穆《论语新解》 | same | fairly sure | 同以丝代麻无害礼义可从众,拜上骄泰有损敬不可从。钱对拜下升拜礼史并陈两说,朱取拜下辞乃升成拜。 |
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