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子罕第九 · chapter 23 · not yet coveredWords of correction — can one fail to accept them?

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子曰:法語之言,能無從乎?改之為貴。巽與之言,能無說乎?繹之為貴。說而不繹,從而不改,吾末如之何也已矣。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 126 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 9.24.

The Master said: Words of correction — can one fail to accept them? What matters is to change. Words of gentle advice — can one fail to be pleased? What matters is to think them through. Pleased but not thinking it through, accepting but not changing — with such a person I can do nothing.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:正面规劝的话,能不听从吗?改了才可贵。委婉开导的话,能不高兴吗?琢磨出用意才可贵。只高兴不琢磨、只听从不改,孔子说拿这种人没办法。常有人问:“巽与之言,能无说乎?绎之为贵”,顺耳的话为什么光高兴不够?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说:正言规劝的话,能不听从吗?但贵在真正改过。委婉开导的话,听了能不高兴吗?但贵在仔细推敲它的用意。只是高兴而不推敲,只是表面听从而不改正,这样的人我也没有办法了。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Close reading and checking

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常The common reading

“巽与之言,能无说乎?绎之为贵”,顺耳的话为什么光高兴不够?

注Key words in the commentary

法语者,正言之也。巽言者,婉而导之也。绎,寻其绪也。法言人所敬惮,故必从;然不改,则面从而已。巽言无所乖忤,故必说。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
说而不绎,从而不“法语者,正言之也。巽言者,婉而导之也。绎,寻其绪也。法言人所敬惮,故必从;然不改,则面从而已。巽言无所乖忤,故必说;然不绎,则又不足以知其微意之所在也。”page 127
说而不绎,从而不“法言,若孟子论行王政之类是也。巽言,若其论好货好色之类是也。语之而不达,拒之而不受,犹之可也。其或喻焉,则尚庶几其能改绎矣。从且说矣,而不改绎焉,则是终不改绎也已,虽圣人其如之何哉?”page 127

见Cross-references

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 五

“彼人有過失,若我以法則語之,人聞法當時無不口從而云止當不敢復為者也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 17About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“别人用规则正言来告诫我,能不服从吗?”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同分法语正言相规须改、巽言婉导须寻绎微意,不可只面从悦听;钱以教学在人与学习在己总结。

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