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孔子曰:祿之去公室,五世矣;政逮於大夫,四世矣;故夫三桓之子孫,微矣。Confucius said: It has been five generations since the revenues left the ducal house, and four since government passed to the ministers. That is why the descendants of the Three Huan are in decline.
What this chapter says
一孔按:鲁国政权离开公室已五代,落到大夫手里已四代,所以三桓子孙也衰微了。以下犯上得来的权,也会被下面的人夺走。常有人问“三桓夺了鲁君的权,为什么自家子孙也衰微了”,上面是一孔录的回答。
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白Plain Chinese
孔子说,俸禄与政权离开鲁国公室已经五代,政权落到大夫手中已经四代,所以三桓的后人也已衰微。
Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.
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常The common reading
三桓夺了鲁君的权,为什么自家子孙也衰微了?
注Key words in the commentary
鲁自文公薨,公子遂杀子赤,立宣公,而君失其政。历成、襄、昭、定,凡五公。逮,及也。
核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line
Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition
| Line | Quoted text | Page |
|---|---|---|
| 孔子曰:禄之去公 | “鲁自文公薨,公子遂杀子赤,立宣公,而君失其政。历成、襄、昭、定,凡五公。逮,及也。自季武子始专国政,历悼、平、桓子,凡四世,而为家臣阳虎所执。三桓,三家,皆桓公之后。” | page 224 |
| 孔子曰:禄之去公 | “礼乐征伐自诸侯出,宜诸侯之强也,而鲁以失政。政逮于大夫,宜大夫之强也,而三桓以微。何也?强生于安,安生于上下之分定。今诸侯大夫皆陵其上,则无以令其下矣。故皆不久而失之也。” | page 224 |
家Other commentaries
Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.
皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 八
“孔子見其數將彌知季氏必出亡,故發斯言也。”……
Compared with Zhu Xi
| Commentary | Point | Relation | Confidence | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 钱穆《论语新解》 | differs | fairly sure | 五公之世数同列宣成襄昭定;大夫四世不同,钱列季文武平桓,朱列季武悼平桓。均说明私门专权日衰的趋势。 | |
| 杨伯峻《论语译注》 | 四世 | word sense | settled | 杨自季文子至桓子,朱自季武子经悼平桓;五世鲁宣至定相合,不能把大夫四世名单写成一致。 |
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