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Ba yi (Book 3) · chapter 12Sacrifice as if present

祭如在,祭神如神在。子曰:吾不与祭,如不祭。
Source text and commentary from Zhu Xi, Lunyu jizhu (Sibu beiyao printing).

Sacrifice as if they were present; sacrifice to the spirits as if the spirits were present. The Master said: If I do not take part in the sacrifice, it is as if I had not sacrificed.

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常The common reading

Did Confucius believe in spirits?

注Key words in the commentary

Cheng Yi: “祭,祭先祖也;祭神,祭外神也;祭先主于孝,祭神主于敬” — ji is sacrifice to ancestors, jishen to other spirits; ancestors call for filial piety, spirits for reverence; “此门人记孔子祭祀之诚意” — the disciples record Confucius's sincerity in sacrifice; yu (take part) in the departing tone; “此心缺然,如未尝祭也” — the heart feels the gap, as if one had never sacrificed.

家What other commentators say

Fan Zuyu: “有其诚则有其神,无其诚则无其神” — with sincerity there are spirits, without it there are none; “诚为实,礼为虚也” — sincerity is the substance, ritual the empty form.

读How Yikonglu reads it

The form of the rite can be laid out by the book; the heart in it has to be brought by the one who sacrifices.

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Every commentary line quoted in the video: the original wording, who said it, and the page in the base edition. “Paraphrase” marks our summary, not the commentator's words. About this edition

Quoted textSourcePage
“祭,祭先祖也。祭神,祭外神也。祭先主于孝,祭神主于敬”Cheng Yi, quoted by Zhu Xipage 43
“愚谓此门人记孔子祭祀之诚意”Zhu Xi's commentarypage 43
“与,去声。又记孔子之言以明之。言己当祭之时,或有故不得与,而使他人摄之,则不得致其如在之诚。故虽已祭,而此心缺然,如未尝祭也”Zhu Xi's commentarypage 43

音Pronunciation

CharacterIn the lineRead as
与吾不与祭yù

页Pages of the base edition

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