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Ba yi (Book 3) · chapter 25The Shao is perfectly beautiful and perfectly good

子谓韶:尽美矣,又尽善也。谓武:尽美矣,未尽善也。
Source text and commentary from Zhu Xi, Lunyu jizhu (Sibu beiyao printing).

The Master said of the Shao: Perfectly beautiful, and perfectly good. He said of the Wu: Perfectly beautiful, but not perfectly good.

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常The common reading

Equally beautiful — so where is the difference?

注Key words in the commentary

“韶,舜乐。武,武王乐。美者,声容之盛。善者,美之实也” — the Shao is Shun's music, the Wu King Wu's; beauty is the fullness of sound and dance, goodness is the substance of beauty; “其功一也,故其乐皆尽美” — their achievements were the same, so both musics are perfectly beautiful; “舜之德,性之也,又以揖逊而有天下;武王之德,反之也,又以征诛而得天下,故其实有不同者” — Shun's virtue was by nature, and he gained the world by yielding; King Wu's virtue was regained, and he won the world by conquest, so in substance they differ.

家What other commentators say

Cheng Yi: “成汤放桀,惟有惭德,武王亦然,故未尽善” — when Tang banished Jie he felt ashamed, and so did King Wu, hence “not perfectly good”; “尧舜汤武,其揆一也。征伐非其所欲,所遇之时然尔” — Yao, Shun, Tang and Wu were one in principle; conquest was not what they wanted, only what their times demanded.

读How Yikonglu reads it

The difference is in how it came: one was yielded, one was taken by force. Today: two equally splendid wins, one earned head-on, one after the opponent withdrew injured — the podium does not taste the same.

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“韶,舜乐。武,武王乐。美者,声容之盛。善者,美之实也。舜绍尧致治,武王伐纣救民,其功一也,故其乐皆尽美”Zhu Xi's commentarypage 50
“然舜之德,性之也,又以揖逊而有天下;武王之德,反之也,又以征诛而得天下,故其实有不同者”Zhu Xi's commentarypage 50
“成汤放桀,惟有惭德,武王亦然,故未尽善。尧舜汤武,其揆一也。征伐非其所欲,所遇之时然尔”朱注引程子(程颐)page 50

音Pronunciation

CharacterIn the lineRead as
韶子谓韶sháo

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