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公冶长第五 · chapter 10I have never seen anyone who is truly firm

子曰:吾未见刚者。或对曰:申枨。子曰:枨也欲,焉得刚?
Source text and commentary from Zhu Xi, Lunyu jizhu (Sibu beiyao printing).

The Master said: I have never seen anyone who is truly firm. Someone answered: Shen Cheng. The Master said: Cheng has desires; how can he be firm?

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说:我没见过真正刚的人。有人回答:申枨就是。孔子说:申枨欲望多,哪里刚得起来?

A plain modern-Chinese rendering following Yikonglu's reading.

常The common reading

Taking a hard temper and refusing to yield to anyone as “firmness”.

注Key words in the commentary

Cheng (枨) read chéng; yan (焉) read yān; “刚,坚强不屈之意,最人所难能者” — firmness means strong and unbending, the hardest thing for people to manage; “欲,多嗜欲也。多嗜欲,则不得为刚矣” — desire means many cravings; with many cravings one cannot be firm.

家What other commentators say

The Cheng brothers: “人有欲则无刚,刚则不屈于欲” — with desires one has no firmness; the firm do not bend to desire. Xie Liangzuo: “刚与欲正相反。能胜物之谓刚,故常伸于万物之上;为物揜之谓欲,故常屈于万物之下” — firmness and desire are exact opposites; being able to overcome things is firmness, so it always stands above all things; being covered by things is desire, so it always bends beneath them; “其为人得非悻悻自好者乎?故或者疑以为刚,然不知此其所以为欲尔” — was he not a prickly, self-regarding man? So some took him for firm, not knowing that this was exactly his desire.

读How Yikonglu reads it

Firmness holds things down; desire is being covered by things. Looking hard and loving to win may mean being led by one's own desires. Today: the person who speaks most aggressively in meetings and yields to no one cannot walk past a mall sale.

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 三

“云吾未見剛者者,剛謂性無慾者也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 2 p. 11About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“我没见过刚的人。”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同解刚为不屈于外物,多嗜欲则不能刚。钱特别说明无欲不即等于刚,避免从必要条件反推充分条件。

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Every commentary line quoted in the video: the original wording, who said it, and the page in the base edition. “Paraphrase” marks our summary, not the commentator's words. About this edition

Quoted textSourcePage
“刚,坚强不屈之意,最人所难能者,故夫子叹其未见……欲,多嗜欲也。多嗜欲,则不得为刚矣。程子曰:人有欲则无刚,刚则不屈于欲”朱注;朱注引程子page 66
“刚与欲正相反。能胜物之谓刚,故常伸于万物之上;为物揜之谓欲,故常屈于万物之下……枨之欲不可知,其为人得非悻悻自好者乎?故或者疑以为刚,然不知此其所以为欲尔”Xie Liangzuo, quoted by Zhu Xipage 66

音Pronunciation

CharacterIn the lineRead as
枨申枨chéng
焉焉得刚yān

页Pages of the base edition

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