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颜渊第十二 · chapter 23 · not yet coveredZigong asked about friendship

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子貢問友。子曰:忠告而善道之,不可則止,毋自辱焉。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 170 of the base edition.

Zigong asked about friendship. The Master said: Advise him faithfully and guide him well; if that fails, stop. Do not bring humiliation on yourself.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:朋友之间,尽心告诉他,好好开导他,不听就停,别自取其辱。友以义合,劝到该停处要停。常有人问“子贡问交友,朋友劝一次不听,孔子说该不该接着劝”,上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

子贡问交友,孔子说,诚恳相告,善加劝导,不被接受就暂且停止,不要弄到自己受辱。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Close reading and checking

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常The common reading

子贡问交友,朋友劝一次不听,孔子说该不该接着劝?

注Key words in the commentary

友所以辅仁,故尽其心以告之,善其说以道之。然以义合者也,故不可则止。若以数而见疏,则自辱矣。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

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子曰:忠告而善道“友所以辅仁,故尽其心以告之,善其说以道之。然以义合者也,故不可则止。若以数而见疏,则自辱矣。”page 171

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“諮求朋友之道也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 77About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“忠心地劝告他,好好地引导他,他不听从,也就罢了,…”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“子贡问交友之道。”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled尽心忠告、善导,不从则止以免自辱;告读去声旧音,非不顾交友义而立即绝交。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以尽心忠告且善其劝导,若不纳则暂止避免烦渎自辱;钱明确止言不等于立即绝友。

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