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述而第七 · chapter 28 · not yet coveredThe people of Huxiang were hard to talk with

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互鄉難與言,童子見,門人惑。子曰:與其進也,不與其退也,唯何甚!人潔己以進,與其潔也,不保其往也。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 102 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 7.29.

The people of Huxiang were hard to talk with. A boy from there came to see the Master, and the disciples were puzzled. The Master said: I approve of his coming forward, not of his going back. Why be so severe? When a person purifies himself to come forward, I approve of that purity; I do not vouch for his past.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:互乡的人难说话,一个少年来见,孔子接见了,弟子疑惑。孔子说人肯洁身而来,就许他这一回进来,不追究他的过去,也不担保他的将来。常有人问“互乡的童子来见,门人疑惑,孔子见他对不对”,上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

互乡这个地方的人难以和他们讲道理,那里有个少年来见孔子,学生们都觉得疑惑。孔子说:我赞许他上进,不赞许他退步,何必做得那么过分?人家把自己洗干净了来求进,就赞许他这份洁净,不必追究他过去如何。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Close reading and checking

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常The common reading

互乡的童子来见,门人疑惑,孔子见他对不对?

注Key words in the commentary

疑此章有错简,‘人洁’至‘往也’十四字,当在‘与其进也’之前。洁,脩治也。与,许也。往,前日也。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
人洁己以进,与其“疑此章有错简,‘人洁’至‘往也’十四字,当在‘与其进也’之前。洁,脩治也。与,许也。往,前日也。”page 102
人洁己以进,与其“言人洁己而来,但许其能自洁耳,固不能保其前日所为之善恶也;但许其进而来见耳,非许其既退而为不善也。盖不追其既往,不逆其将来,以是心至,斯受之耳。‘唯’字上下,疑又有阙文,大抵亦不为已甚之意。”page 102
人洁己以进,与其“圣人待物之洪如此。”page 102

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 四

“互鄉,鄉名也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 2 p. 57About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“互乡的人,多难与言(善)。”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以许其洁己求进、不保证已往与退后,不宜拒其向善。朱疑章中错简而调次,钱所用正文次序未照调。

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