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子张第十九 · chapter 12 · not yet coveredZixia's disciples and young followers are fine when it comes to…

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子游曰:子夏之門人小子,當灑掃、應對、進退,則可矣。抑末也,本之則無。如之何?子夏聞之曰:噫!言遊過矣!君子之道,孰先傳焉?孰後倦焉?譬諸草木,區以別矣。君子之道,焉可誣也?有始有卒者,其惟聖人乎!
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 256 of the base edition.

Ziyou said: Zixia's disciples and young followers are fine when it comes to sprinkling and sweeping, answering and responding, coming forward and withdrawing. But these are mere branches; of the root they have nothing. What about that? Zixia heard this and said: Ah, Yan You is mistaken! In the way of the gentleman, what is to be taught first, and what is to be left until later? It is like plants, which are sorted into kinds. How can the way of the gentleman be falsified? Having both beginning and end — only the sage, perhaps!

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

白Plain Chinese

子游批评子夏的学生会洒扫、应对、进退,却只有末节、没有根本,子夏听到后说,言游说错了,君子之道,哪里是有的先传授,有的后来便厌倦不教,学习者像草木各有类别,怎能不顾差别而妄教。能从开始到终了全都贯通的,恐怕只有圣人。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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  • 子游曰:子夏之门 Commentary:子游讥子夏弟子,于威仪容节之间则可矣。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第12章(底本第 256—257 页))
  • 抑末也,本之则无 Commentary:然此小学之末耳,推其本,如大学正心诚意之事,则无有。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第12章(底本第 256—257 页))

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Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 十

“云子游曰云云者,門人小子謂子夏之弟子也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 41About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“子夏的学生,叫他们做做打扫、接待客人、应对进退的工作,…”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“子夏的门人小子,担当些洒水扫地,言语应对,…”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》倦word sensefairly sure杨译最后讲述,朱保倦字为不倦并论不可先传本而后倦末;皆反对道分本末而诬教,句法未全同。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以教学循序、因学者程度如草木各别,不可一概骤授高远。钱不谓子游所忧本末全非,朱也从小学大学本末相贯发明。

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