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子张第十九 · chapter 20 · not yet coveredZhou's wickedness was not as extreme as they say

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子貢曰:紂之不善,不如是之甚也。是以君子惡居下流,天下之惡皆歸焉。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 259 of the base edition.

Zigong said: Zhou's wickedness was not as extreme as they say. That is why the gentleman hates to dwell in low places, where all the evils of the world flow together.

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白Plain Chinese

子贡说,纣的恶并没有传说中那么重,因此君子厌恶把自己置于污下之地,否则天下的恶名都会汇聚到他身上。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Connections

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  • Read alongside (Yikonglu)Daodejing 61: "A great state is like the lower reaches of a river" (大国者下流): Zigong says the gentleman most dreads dwelling in the low place, yet Laozi wants the great state to accept the low place willingly.
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见Cross-references

  • 是以君子恶居下流 Commentary:下流,地形卑下之处,众流之所归。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第20章(底本第 259 页))
  • 是以君子恶居下流 Commentary:喻人身有污贱之实,亦恶名之所聚也。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第20章(底本第 259 页))

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 十

“此以下是第五子貢語,自有五章。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 44About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“商纣的坏,不像现在传说的这么厉害。”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“纣的不善,并不像后世所说的那么过分呀!”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled下流喻污贱之地而众恶归之,戒自处恶地;朱明非谓纣无罪被诬,杨译亦只说恶不如此甚。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以纣居不善之地恶名归之告诫自警,不是说纣本无罪。钱兼辨众恶人归而连成恶行,朱重点聚恶名。

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