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子张第十九 · chapter 25 · not yet coveredYou are just being modest

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陳子禽謂子貢曰:子為恭也,仲尼豈賢於子乎?子貢曰:君子一言以為知,一言以為不知,言不可不慎也。夫子之不可及也,猶天之不可階而升也。夫子之得邦家者,所謂立之斯立,道之斯行,綏之斯來,動之斯和。其生也榮,其死也哀,如之何其可及也。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 261 of the base edition.

Chen Ziqin said to Zigong: You are just being modest. How could Zhongni be worthier than you? Zigong said: A gentleman is judged wise by one word and foolish by one word; one cannot be careless in speech. That the Master cannot be equaled is like the sky, which cannot be climbed by steps. If the Master had obtained a state or a family to govern, it would have been as they say: he sets them up and they stand, he guides them and they go, he comforts them and they come, he moves them and they live in harmony. In life he was honored, in death he was mourned. How could he be equaled?

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

白Plain Chinese

陈子禽认为子贡只因谦让才说孔子胜过自己,子贡批评他不谨慎,说君子一句话就能显出有知或无知,孔子不可企及,就像天不能沿着阶梯爬上去。若孔子得到国家或采邑,扶立百姓他们就能立足,引导他们便会跟从,安抚他们便来归附,发动他们便同心和睦,他活着光荣,死后令人悲哀,哪里赶得上。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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  • 陈子禽谓子贡曰: Commentary:为恭,谓为恭敬推逊其师也。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第25章(底本第 261—262 页))
  • 夫子之不可及也, Commentary:大可为也,化不可为也,故曰不可阶而升。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第25章(底本第 261—262 页))

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Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 十

“云陳子禽云云者,子禽既非陳亢,當是同姓名之人也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 47About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“高贵人物由一句话表现他的有知,也由一句话表现他的无知,…”

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钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“你故意作为恭敬的吧?”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled得邦家后立道绥动化民,非子贡声称已亲见孔治天下;朱立为植民生,杨译社会立足,义域相近而不全同现代概念。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以子禽疑贡恭让其师而贡申孔子不可阶升之高,立道绥动皆民感应、德位得其施;生荣死哀非以声名抵实际政治。

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