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子张第十九 · chapter 14 · not yet coveredIn mourning, carry grief to its fullest, and stop there

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子游曰:喪致乎哀而止。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 257 of the base edition.

Ziyou said: In mourning, carry grief to its fullest, and stop there.

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白Plain Chinese

子游说,居丧把悲哀尽到极处就可以了。

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  • 子游曰:丧致乎哀 Commentary:致极其哀,不尚文饰也。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第14章(底本第 257—258 页))
  • 子游曰:丧致乎哀 Commentary:杨氏曰:丧,与其易也宁戚,不若礼不足而哀有余之意。(朱熹《论语集注》卷十·子张第14章(底本第 257—258 页))

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Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 十

“此以下第三子游語,自有二章。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 42About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“居丧,充分表现了他的悲哀也就够了。”

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钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“丧礼只要极尽到遭丧者之哀情便够了。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled丧尽哀而不尚文饰;朱认为而止略有简忽细礼之弊,杨直译够了,不宜称朱无保留采用。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以丧致哀为不尚文饰。钱补不可毁身灭性,朱对而止二字警其可能高远而略细礼,故不以情真废礼节。

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