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先进第十一 · chapter 14 · not yet coveredWhat is You's zither doing at my gate?

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子曰:由之瑟奚為於丘之門?門人不敬子路。子曰:由也升堂矣,未入於室也。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 146 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 11.15.

The Master said: What is You's zither doing at my gate? The disciples stopped respecting Zilu. The Master said: You has ascended to the hall, though he has not yet entered the inner room.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:孔子说子路弹瑟不合自己门下的风格,门人就不敬子路。孔子补一句:子路已升堂,只是还没入室。说重了要往回圆,护的是学生在众人眼里的分寸。常有人问“孔子说子路弹瑟不合门风,门人就不敬子路,孔子怎么往回圆”,上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,仲由弹的这种瑟声,怎么会出现在我的门下;弟子们因此不尊敬子路,孔子又说,仲由已经登上厅堂,只是还没有进入内室。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

孔子说子路弹瑟不合门风,门人就不敬子路,孔子怎么往回圆?

注Key words in the commentary

家语云:子路鼓瑟,有北鄙杀伐之声。盖其气质刚勇,而不足于中和,故其发于声者如此。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:由之瑟奚为“家语云:子路鼓瑟,有北鄙杀伐之声。盖其气质刚勇,而不足于中和,故其发于声者如此。”page 146
子曰:由也升堂矣“言其声之不和,与己不同也。”page 146
子曰:由也升堂矣“门人以夫子之言,遂不敬子路,故夫子释之。升堂入室,喻入道之次第。言子路之学,已造乎正大高明之域,特未深入精微之奥耳。未可以一事之失而遽忽之也。”page 146

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“云子曰云云者,子路性剛,其鼓琴瑟亦有壯氣。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 47About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“由的鼓瑟声,为何发在我的门内呀?”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以子路鼓瑟刚勇杀伐之声欠中和,升堂未入室是学道已进未深,孔子补言以正门人轻慢,不作完全否定。

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