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先进第十一 · chapter 10 · not yet coveredWhen Yan Yuan died, the disciples wanted to give him a lavish…

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顏淵死,門人欲厚葬之,子曰:不可。門人厚葬之。子曰:回也視予猶父也,予不得視猶子也。非我也,夫二三子也。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 144 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 11.11.

When Yan Yuan died, the disciples wanted to give him a lavish burial. The Master said: No. The disciples gave him a lavish burial. The Master said: Hui looked on me as a father, yet I could not treat him as a son. It was not I; it was you, my friends.

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一孔按:弟子要厚葬颜渊,孔子说不可,弟子还是厚葬了。孔子说颜回待我像父亲,我却不能待他像儿子。贫而厚葬不合理,违了颜回一生安贫的本意。常有人问“门人厚葬颜渊,孔子为什么说反倒对不起他”,上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

颜渊死后,弟子们想厚葬他,孔子说不可以,弟子们还是厚葬了他。孔子说,颜回把我看作父亲,我却没能像对自己的儿子那样,为他安排合宜的丧葬,这不是我的本意,是你们做的。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

门人厚葬颜渊,孔子为什么说反倒对不起他?

注Key words in the commentary

丧具称家之有无,贫而厚葬,不循理也。故夫子止之。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
颜渊死,门人欲厚“丧具称家之有无,贫而厚葬,不循理也。故夫子止之。”page 144
颜渊死,门人欲厚“盖颜路听之。”page 144
颜渊死,门人欲厚“叹不得如葬鲤之得宜,以责门人也。”page 144

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“云顏淵死門人欲厚葬者,顏淵之死,門人欲厚葬,明其友也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 45About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“颜渊死后,门人同学想要厚葬他。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以颜家贫而弟子厚葬失宜,孔子不得如葬亲子之合礼,责在门人;不得视犹子不是拒绝师生亲情。

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