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先进第十一 · chapter 20 · not yet coveredApproving of someone because his talk is earnest — is he a true…

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子曰:論篤是與,君子者乎?色莊者乎?
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 149 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 11.21.

The Master said: Approving of someone because his talk is earnest — is he a true gentleman, or only grave in appearance?

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What this chapter says

一孔按:只因为一个人说话笃实就称许他,那他是君子,还是只是脸上装得庄重?不能凭言貌取人。常有人问:“论笃是与”,只因说话实在就称许一个人,不就够了吗?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,只因一个人的言论笃实就赞许他,那么他究竟是真君子,还是只有庄重的外表呢?

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常The common reading

“论笃是与”,只因说话实在就称许一个人,不就够了吗?

注Key words in the commentary

与,如字。言但以其言论笃实而与之,则未知其为君子者乎?为色庄者乎?言不可以言貌取人也。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

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子曰:论笃是与,“与,如字。言但以其言论笃实而与之,则未知其为君子者乎?为色庄者乎?言不可以言貌取人也。”page 149

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“云論篤是與者,論篤者,是言語辨善,故優無惡可擇也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 52About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“但听他议论笃实,便赞许他,哪知他真是一君子呢?”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同认为只凭笃实言论、庄严外貌许人,不能知真君子还是色庄。钱与训许,朱标如字而大意亦作与之,皆反对言貌取人。

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