一孔录

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先进第十一 · chapter 2 · not yet coveredThose who followed me in Chen and Cai are no longer at my gate

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子曰:從我於陳、蔡者,皆不及門也。德行:顏淵,閔子騫,冉伯牛,仲弓。言語:宰我,子貢。政事:冉有,季路。文學:子游,子夏。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 141 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 11.2、11.3.

The Master said: Those who followed me in Chen and Cai are no longer at my gate. In virtuous conduct: Yan Yuan, Min Ziqian, Ran Boniu, Zhonggong. In speech: Zai Wo, Zigong. In government: Ran You, Jilu. In culture and learning: Ziyou, Zixia.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:跟我在陈蔡受困的,如今都不在门下了。下面四科十人的名单,朱注认为是弟子所记,并非孔子当场所排。常有人问:先进篇“德行:颜渊、闵子骞”这张四科名单,是孔子排的吗?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,曾跟随我在陈国、蔡国受困的弟子,如今都不在我门下了。德行出众的是颜渊、闵子骞、冉伯牛、仲弓,善言辞的是宰我、子贡,善政事的是冉有、季路,长于文献学问的是子游、子夏。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Connections

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Zixia20 chaptersZigong38 chaptersZiyou8 chaptersYan Yuan21 chaptersZilu41 chaptersRan You16 chaptersZai Wo5 chaptersZhonggong6 chaptersMin Ziqian5 chaptersBoniu2 chapters

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Close reading and checking

For readers who want to go deeper or check our work: key words in the commentary, what other commentators say, textual variants, the commentaries in their own words with facsimile pages, pronunciation and corrections. Tap a heading to open it.

常The common reading

先进篇“德行:颜渊、闵子骞”这张四科名单,是孔子排的吗?

注Key words in the commentary

孔子尝厄于陈、蔡之间,弟子多从之者,此时皆不在门。故孔子思之,盖不忘其相从于患难之中也。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:从我于陈、“孔子尝厄于陈、蔡之间,弟子多从之者,此时皆不在门。故孔子思之,盖不忘其相从于患难之中也。”page 141
子曰:从我于陈、“弟子因孔子之言,记此十人,而并目其所长,分为四科。孔子教人各因其材,于此可见。”page 142
文学:子游,子夏“四科乃从夫子于陈、蔡者尔,门人之贤者固不止此。曾子传道而不与焉,故知十哲世俗论也。”page 142

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“孔子言時世亂離,道不行。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 41About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“跟着我在陈国、蔡国之间忍饥受饿的人,都不在我这里了。”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“以前从我在陈蔡的,此刻都不在我门下了。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》不及门word sensesettled杨11.2:不及门:杨主取不在门下而不从未仕说,朱亦此时不在门;下接四科杨另章,朱合章并系陈蔡从者,关联判断不同;杨11.3:四科:杨明确反对十人即陈蔡从者,以冉有等史事论证;朱将名单附前章并引程说从陈蔡者,章分与史实判断不同。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同取不及门为昔从陈蔡的弟子当时不在门,四科属记者附录。钱强调前三科先进、游夏文学属后进,并不把四科并列为互不相通的专业。

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