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先进第十一 · chapter 21 · not yet coveredShould I act at once on what I hear?

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子路問:聞斯行諸?子曰:有父兄在,如之何其聞斯行之?冉有問:聞斯行諸?子曰:聞斯行之。公西華曰:由也問聞斯行諸,子曰有父兄在;求也問聞斯行諸,子曰聞斯行之。赤也惑,敢問。子曰:求也退,故進之;由也兼人,故退之。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 149 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 11.22.

Zilu asked: Should I act at once on what I hear? The Master said: While your father and elder brothers are alive, how can you act at once on what you hear? Ran You asked: Should I act at once on what I hear? The Master said: Act at once on what you hear. Gongxi Hua said: When You asked, you said 'your father and elder brothers are alive'; when Qiu asked, you said 'act at once.' I am confused and venture to ask. The Master said: Qiu holds back, so I urged him on; You has the drive of two men, so I held him back.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:子路问听到就做吗,孔子说有父兄在,怎能听到就做;冉有问同样的话,孔子说听到就做。冉有退缩,所以推他;子路好勇过人,所以拉他。常有人问:子路和冉有问同一句“闻斯行诸”,孔子为什么给了两个答案?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

子路问,听到应当做的事就去做吗,孔子说,有父兄在,怎么能听到就自己去做;冉有问同样的话,孔子却说,听到就去做。公西华问为什么两次回答不同,孔子说,冉求容易退缩,所以鼓励他向前;仲由好胜过人,所以让他退让些。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

子路和冉有问同一句“闻斯行诸”,孔子为什么给了两个答案?

注Key words in the commentary

兼人,谓胜人也。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:求也退,故“兼人,谓胜人也。”page 149
子曰:求也退,故“闻义固当勇为,然有父兄在,则有不可得而专者。若不禀命而行,则反伤于义矣。子路有闻,未之能行,惟恐有闻,则于所当为,不患其不能为矣;特患为之之意或过,而于所当禀命者有阙耳。”page 149
子曰:求也退,故“无过不及之患也。”page 149—150
子曰:求也退,故“若冉求之资禀,失之弱,不患其不禀命也;患其于所当为者,逡巡畏缩,而为之不勇耳。圣人一进之,一退之,所以约之于义理之中,而使之无过不及之患也。”page 149—150

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“斯,此也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 53About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“是否听到了就该做呢?”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以求退故进、由胜人故退说明因材施教;有父兄须禀不可自专,闻义勇行不能无别混施。

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