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顏淵死,子哭之慟。從者曰:子慟矣。曰:有慟乎?非夫人之為慟而誰為!When Yan Yuan died, the Master wept for him with abandon. His followers said: Master, you weep with abandon. He said: Do I? If not for this man, for whom should I weep so?
What this chapter says
一孔按:颜渊死,孔子哭得过了常度,弟子说您太恸了。孔子说不为这个人恸,为谁恸。哀到了这里,正合其情,不算失礼。常有人问“颜渊死,孔子哭得很恸,这样哭合礼吗”,上面是一孔录的回答。
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白Plain Chinese
颜渊死了,孔子哭得极其悲痛,随从说他太悲痛了;孔子说,有这样悲痛吗,不为这个人悲痛,还为谁悲痛呢?
Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.
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Close reading and checking
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常The common reading
颜渊死,孔子哭得很恸,这样哭合礼吗?
注Key words in the commentary
恸,哀过也。
核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line
Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition
| Line | Quoted text | Page |
|---|---|---|
| 颜渊死,子哭之恸 | “恸,哀过也。” | page 144 |
| 颜渊死,子哭之恸 | “哀伤之至,不自知也。” | page 144 |
| 颜渊死,子哭之恸 | “夫人,谓颜渊。言其死可惜,哭之宜恸,非他人之比也。” | page 144 |
| 非夫人之为恸而谁 | “痛惜之至,施当其可,皆情性之正也。” | page 144 |
家Other commentaries
Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.
皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六
“顏淵死,孔子往顏家哭之,亦慟。”……
Compared with Zhu Xi
| Commentary | Point | Relation | Confidence | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 钱穆《论语新解》 | same | fairly sure | 同训恸为哀极,夫人指颜回,因死可惜而痛哭合情;钱据从者为赴颜家之随从,朱着重圣情当其可。 |
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