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先进第十一 · chapter 17 · not yet coveredChai is simple, Shen is slow, Shi is showy, You is coarse

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柴也愚,參也魯,師也辟,由也喭。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 147 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 11.18.

Chai is simple, Shen is slow, Shi is showy, You is coarse.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:高柴愚,曾参鲁,子张偏,子路粗。孔子当面点出四个学生的偏处,为的是让各人知道自己该补哪一样。常有人问:“柴也愚,参也鲁,师也辟,由也喭”,孔子当面这样说学生,为什么?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

高柴质厚而少智,曾参迟钝,子张善于修饰外貌,仲由粗率。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

“柴也愚,参也鲁,师也辟,由也喭”,孔子当面这样说学生,为什么?

注Key words in the commentary

柴,孔子弟子,姓高,字子羔。愚者,知不足而厚有余。家语记其足不履影,启蛰不杀,方长不折。执亲之丧,泣血三年,未尝见齿。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
柴也愚,参也鲁,“柴,孔子弟子,姓高,字子羔。愚者,知不足而厚有余。家语记其足不履影,启蛰不杀,方长不折。执亲之丧,泣血三年,未尝见齿。避难而行,不径不窦。可以见其为人矣。”page 147
柴也愚,参也鲁,“曾子之学,诚笃而已。圣门学者,聪明才辩,不为不多,而卒传其道,乃质鲁之人尔。故学以诚实为贵也。”page 147
柴也愚,参也鲁,“曾子之才鲁,故其学也确,所以能深造乎道也。”page 147
柴也愚,参也鲁,“辟,便辟也。谓习于容止,少诚实也。”page 147—148
柴也愚,参也鲁,“喭,粗俗也。传称喭者,谓俗论也。”page 147—148
柴也愚,参也鲁,“四者,性之偏,语之使知自励也。”page 148
柴也愚,参也鲁,“此章之首脱‘子曰’二字。或疑下章‘子曰’,当在此章之首,而通为一章。”page 148

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 六

“云柴也愚者,柴,弟子也。其累在於愚也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 3 p. 50About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“柴性愚直,参性鲁钝,师性偏辟,由性刚猛。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》differsfairly sure愚鲁辟喭皆论弟子气质。钱训愚为好仁之过、辟为偏、喭为刚猛;朱训愚为知不足厚有余、辟便辟、喭粗俗,字训有别。鲁为钝则同。

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