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子路第十三 · chapter 14 · not yet coveredRan Zi returned from court

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冉子退朝。子曰:何晏也?對曰:有政。子曰:其事也。如有政,雖不吾以,吾其與聞之。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 179 of the base edition.

Ran Zi returned from court. The Master said: Why so late? He replied: There was state business. The Master said: It must have been family business. If there had been state business, though I am not in office, I would have heard of it.

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What this chapter says

一孔按:冉有退朝晚,说有政事。孔子说那是季氏的家事;若真是国政,我虽不被用,也会参与听闻。一字之改,点破季氏在私朝议国政。常有人问:冉有说朝中“有政”,孔子为什么改说是“其事也”?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

冉有从季氏私朝回来,孔子问为什么这样晚,冉有说,有政务;孔子说,那是家事,若有国家政务,即使不任用我,我也应当知道。

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常The common reading

冉有说朝中“有政”,孔子为什么改说是“其事也”?

注Key words in the commentary

冉有时为季氏宰。朝,季氏之私朝也。晏,晚也。政,国政。事,家事。以,用也。礼,大夫虽不治事,犹得与闻国政。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
如有政,虽不吾以“冉有时为季氏宰。朝,季氏之私朝也。晏,晚也。政,国政。事,家事。以,用也。礼,大夫虽不治事,犹得与闻国政。”page 179
如有政,虽不吾以“是时季氏专鲁,其于国政,盖有不与同列议于公朝,而独与家臣谋于私室者。故夫子为不知者而言,此必季氏之家事耳。若是国政,我尝为大夫,虽不见用,犹当与闻。今既不闻,则是非国政也。语意与魏徵献陵之对略相似。其所以正名分、抑季氏,而教冉有之意深矣。”page 179

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 七

“云冉子退朝者,退朝謂旦朝竟而還家,朝廷云退也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 4 p. 10About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“若是有政务,虽然不用我了,我也会知道的。”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“冉有在季氏的私朝退下,来见先生。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》政事之别word sensesettled杨以冉有用词不当即可,拒故求深义;朱认为借家事国政讥季氏私议专权,语用解释不同。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以冉有退季氏私朝、家事不当冒称国政为讽,孔子大夫虽退仍当与闻国政;钱据贬斥意不定冉门所记。

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