一孔录

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子路第十三 · chapter 21 · not yet coveredIf I cannot find those who walk the middle way to associate…

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子曰:不得中行而與之,必也狂狷乎!狂者進取,狷者有所不為也。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 183 of the base edition.

The Master said: If I cannot find those who walk the middle way to associate with, then I must have the ardent and the cautious! The ardent press forward; the cautious have things they will not do.

Working English rendering by Yikonglu; the Chinese text above is what counts.

What this chapter says

一孔按:找不到中行的人,就取狂者和狷者。狂者志高肯进取,狷者守得住有所不为;比只会谨厚的人更能激励裁成。常有人问:孔子说“必也狂狷乎”,狂者和狷者都有偏,为什么反倒要找他们?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,得不到行事合乎中道的人来相处,便取狂者、狷者吧;狂者有志进取,狷者也有所不肯做。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

孔子说“必也狂狷乎”,狂者和狷者都有偏,为什么反倒要找他们?

注Key words in the commentary

行,道也。狂者,志极高而行不掩;狷者,知未及而守有余。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:不得中行而“行,道也。狂者,志极高而行不掩;狷者,知未及而守有余。盖圣人本欲得中道之人而教之,然既不可得,而徒得谨厚之人,则未必能自振拔而有为也。故不若得此狂狷之人,犹可因其志节,而激厉裁抑之以进于道,非与其终于此而已也。”page 183
狂者进取,狷者有“孔子岂不欲中道哉?不可必得,故思其次也。如琴张、曾皙、牧皮者,孔子之所谓狂也。其志嘐嘐然,曰:古之人,古之人。夷考其行而不掩焉者也。狂者又不可得,欲得不屑不洁之士而与之,是狷也,是又其次也。”page 183

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 七

“云不得中行而與之者,中行,行能得其中者也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 4 p. 15About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“得不到言行合乎中庸的人和他相交,…”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“我不得中道之士和他在一起,那只有狂狷了。”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled狂志高进取、狷有所不为,中道不得而思其次;朱强调可裁抑进道,非把狂狷当最终完德。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以中行难得,狂志进取、狷守不为尚可因志节裁成,胜过无可振拔的乡愿;钱引孟子说明,朱以知行偏重分辨。

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