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子路第十三 · chapter 12 · not yet coveredEven with a true king, it would take a generation for…

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子曰:如有王者,必世而後仁。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 178 of the base edition.

The Master said: Even with a true king, it would take a generation for humaneness to prevail.

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一孔按:若有王者兴起,也要一世三十年才能使仁政普及。仁要靠教化浸润,急不得。常有人问:“如有王者,必世而后仁”,王者兴起为什么还要等三十年?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,如果有圣王兴起,也要经过一代,才能使仁的教化深入人心。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

“如有王者,必世而后仁”,王者兴起为什么还要等三十年?

注Key words in the commentary

王者,谓圣人受命而兴也。三十年为一世。仁,谓教化浃也。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:如有王者,“汉自高、惠至于文、景,黎民醇厚,几致刑措,庶乎其近之矣。”page 178
子曰:如有王者,“王者,谓圣人受命而兴也。三十年为一世。仁,谓教化浃也。”page 178—179
子曰:如有王者,“周自文、武至于成王,而后礼乐兴,即其效也。”page 178—179
子曰:如有王者,“或问:三年、必世,迟速不同,何也?程子曰:三年有成,谓法度纪纲有成而化行也。渐民以仁,摩民以义,使之浃于肌肤,沦于骨髓,而礼乐可兴,所谓仁也。此非积久,何以能致?”page 178—179

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 七

“王者謂聖人為天子也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 4 p. 10About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“假若有王者兴起,—定需要三十年才能使仁政大行。”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“如有一位王者兴起,也必三十年时间,才能使仁道行于天下呀!”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled世为三十年,仁为教化浃于民;与三年有成非矛盾,朱以法度成与德化深入区别。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以一世三十年、王者有德位受命统一,仁为教化浃洽,非声称三十年方做任何善政;钱以新旧民更替说明时间。

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