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子路第十三 · chapter 24 · not yet coveredWhat if everyone in the village likes him?

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子貢問曰:鄉人皆好之,何如?子曰:未可也。鄉人皆惡之,何如?子曰:未可也。不如鄉人之善者好之,其不善者惡之。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 184 of the base edition.

Zigong asked: What if everyone in the village likes him? The Master said: Not enough. What if everyone in the village dislikes him? The Master said: Not enough. Better that the good people of the village like him and the bad ones dislike him.

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What this chapter says

一孔按:乡人都喜欢他、都厌恶他,孔子都说不行;要乡里善人喜欢、不善的人厌恶才行。好恶要看是谁在好恶。常有人问“子贡问乡人都喜欢一个人怎么样,孔子为什么说还不行”,上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

子贡问,乡里人都喜欢一个人,怎样,孔子说,还不能断定;又问都厌恶他怎样,孔子说,也不能断定,不如乡里善人喜欢他、不善的人厌恶他。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

子贡问乡人都喜欢一个人怎么样,孔子为什么说还不行?

注Key words in the commentary

一乡之人,宜有公论矣。然其间亦各以类自为好恶也。故善者好之而恶者不恶,则必其有苟合之行。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
不如乡人之善者好“一乡之人,宜有公论矣。然其间亦各以类自为好恶也。故善者好之而恶者不恶,则必其有苟合之行;恶者恶之而善者不好,则必其无可好之实。”page 184

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 七

“云子貢問云云者,子貢問孔子云,設有一人為鄉人共所崇好,則此人如何。”……

woodblock scan vol. 4 p. 17About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“最好是满乡村的好人都喜欢他,满乡村的坏人都厌恶他。”

About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“一乡之人都喜好他,如何呢?”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled不能仅据乡人皆好皆恶定贤,须善者好恶者恶;杨引乡愿互证,朱解释同类好恶,非民意多数即真。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以乡人亦各类好恶,众皆好或皆恶不足定人,须善者好恶者恶;不以名声票数替代实德判断。

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