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子曰:以不教民戰,是謂棄之。The Master said: To send untrained people to war is to throw them away.
What this chapter says
一孔按:用没教过的百姓去作战,就叫抛弃他们。不教而用,是把人往死路上送。常有人问:“以不教民战,是谓弃之”,不教就上战场为什么叫抛弃?上面是一孔录的回答。
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白Plain Chinese
孔子说,用没有经过教导的百姓去作战,就是抛弃他们。
Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.
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常The common reading
“以不教民战,是谓弃之”,不教就上战场为什么叫抛弃?
注Key words in the commentary
以,用也。言用不教之民以战,必有败亡之祸,是弃其民也。
核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line
Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition
| Line | Quoted text | Page |
|---|---|---|
| 子曰:以不教民战 | “以,用也。言用不教之民以战,必有败亡之祸,是弃其民也。” | page 185—186 |
家Other commentaries
Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.
皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 七
“民命可重,故孔子愼戰,所以教至七年,猶曰亦可。”……
Compared with Zhu Xi
| Commentary | Point | Relation | Confidence | Note |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 杨伯峻《论语译注》 | same | settled | 以为用,不教民为未受教的民,驱之战是弃民;杨明释名词结构,朱亦不教之民,无须改断句。 | |
| 钱穆《论语新解》 | same | fairly sure | 同训以为用,不教礼义战阵而驱民战必败亡,等于弃民;并不把孔子说成绝对不言兵事。 |
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