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阳货第十七 · chapter 16 · not yet coveredIn ancient times, people had three failings

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子曰:古者民有三疾,今也或是之亡也。古之狂也肆,今之狂也蕩;古之矜也廉,今之矜也忿戾;古之愚也直,今之愚也詐而已矣。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 238 of the base edition.

The Master said: In ancient times, people had three failings; now perhaps even these are gone. The wild of old were unrestrained; the wild of today are dissolute. The proud of old were scrupulous; the proud of today are quarrelsome. The foolish of old were straightforward; the foolish of today are simply deceitful.

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,古人有三种偏失,如今连偏失中可取的部分也没有了,古时狂放的人只是疏于小节,如今却放荡越界,古时矜持的人还有棱角,如今却乖戾易怒,古时愚朴的人还直率,如今却只剩欺诈。

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见Cross-references

  • 子曰:古者民有三 Commentary:气失其平则为疾,故气?之偏者亦谓之疾。(朱熹《论语集注》卷九·阳货第16章(底本第 238—239 页))
  • 子曰:古者民有三 Commentary:昔所谓疾,今亦无之,伤俗之益衰也。(朱熹《论语集注》卷九·阳货第16章(底本第 238—239 页))

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 九

“古謂淳時也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 15About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“古代的人民还有三种〔可贵的〕毛病,现在呢,或许都没有了。”

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钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“古人常见有三种病,现在或许连这些病也不见了。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》samesettled今狂矜愚较古更失其可取,廉为有棱角方正非廉价;朱气质偏失详释,不是时代人口实际医学三病统计。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以狂矜愚原有偏疾却尚有肆廉直可取,今荡忿戾诈连旧偏中之善亦丧,叹俗日衰而非羡慕疾病本身。

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