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阳货第十七 · chapter 25 · not yet coveredWomen and petty men are the hardest to deal with

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子曰:唯女子與小人為難養也,近之則不孫,遠之則怨。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 243 of the base edition.

The Master said: Women and petty men are the hardest to deal with. Keep them close and they become insolent; keep them at a distance and they resent it.

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,女子和仆役难以相处,过分亲近便不恭顺,疏远又会怨恨。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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  • 子曰:唯女子与小 Commentary:此小人,亦谓仆隶下人也。(朱熹《论语集注》卷九·阳货第25章(底本第 243—244 页))
  • 子曰:唯女子与小 Commentary:君子之于臣妾,庄以莅之,慈以畜之,则无二者之患矣。(朱熹《论语集注》卷九·阳货第25章(底本第 243—244 页))

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 九

“並稟陰陽間氣多,故其意淺促,所以難可養也。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 22About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“只有女子和小人是难得同他们共处的,亲近了,他会无礼;…”

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钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“只有家里的妾侍和仆人最难养。”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》范围word sensesettled杨泛译女子小人难共处,朱特指臣妾仆隶;近不逊远怨的句义相同,不能把范围收窄说成杨也明定。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同把本章小人指家中仆隶,钱将女子明确为妾侍、养指御仆妾;朱亦从臣妾庄临慈畜说明,不把本章不加范围泛断所有女性。

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