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阳货第十七 · chapter 15 · not yet coveredCan one serve a ruler alongside a base man?

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子曰:鄙夫可與事君也與哉?其未得之也,患得之;既得之,患失之。苟患失之,無所不至矣。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 238 of the base edition.

The Master said: Can one serve a ruler alongside a base man? Before he gets it, he worries about getting it; once he has it, he worries about losing it. If he worries about losing it, there is nothing he will not do.

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白Plain Chinese

孔子说,鄙陋的人怎能与他一同事君,职位未得到时担心得不到,得到后又担心失掉。既然怕失去,就什么事都干得出来。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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Connections

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  • Read alongside (Yikonglu)Daodejing 13: “Favor and disgrace alike are alarming” (宠辱若惊): before getting something you fear not getting it, and once you have it you fear losing it. This is just Confucius's “base fellow” (鄙夫).

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Close reading and checking

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见Cross-references

  • 子曰:鄙夫可与事 Commentary:鄙夫,庸恶陋劣之称。(朱熹《论语集注》卷九·阳货第15章(底本第 238 页))
  • 其未得之也,患得 Commentary:何氏曰:患得之,谓患不能得之。(朱熹《论语集注》卷九·阳货第15章(底本第 238 页))

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 九

“言凡鄙之人不可與事君。”……

woodblock scan vol. 5 p. 14About this edition

杨伯峻《论语译注》Zhonghua Book Co. · modern, short quote

“当他没有得到职位的时候,生怕得不着;已经得着了,又怕失去。”

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钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“一个鄙夫,可和他共同事君吗?”

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Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
杨伯峻《论语译注》患得word sensesettled杨校为患不得之,朱保正文而注患不能得;忧得失而无不为之旨同,文字处理不同。
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以患得为患不得、得后患失乃无所不为的病根,故不能与鄙夫共事君;不是对正常得失关切一概斥恶。

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