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宪问第十四 · chapter 23 · not yet coveredZilu asked about serving a ruler

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子路問事君。子曰:勿欺也,而犯之。
Text: Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries on the Analects (Sibu Beiyao edition), page 197 of the base edition. Yang Bojun's Lunyu yizhu numbers this chapter 14.22.

Zilu asked about serving a ruler. The Master said: Do not deceive him, but stand up to him.

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What this chapter says

一孔按:子路问事君,孔子说不要欺骗他,而可以犯颜直谏。子路的病不在不敢犯,在可能不够诚,所以先说勿欺。常有人问:子路问事君,孔子说“勿欺也,而犯之”,为什么先说勿欺?上面是一孔录的回答。

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白Plain Chinese

子路问怎样事君,孔子说,不要欺骗他,但要敢当面劝谏。

Draft plain-Chinese rendering following Zhu Xi; it will be checked when the chapter is covered.

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常The common reading

子路问事君,孔子说“勿欺也,而犯之”,为什么先说勿欺?

注Key words in the commentary

犯,谓犯颜谏争。

核Zhu Xi's commentary, line by line

Zhu Xi's own words on each line of this chapter, each checked against the base-edition page. Other commentators are added when the chapter is covered. About this edition

LineQuoted textPage
子曰:勿欺也,而“犯,谓犯颜谏争。”page 197
子曰:勿欺也,而“犯非子路之所难也,而以不欺为难,故夫子教以先勿欺而后犯也。”page 197

家Other commentaries

Our base text is Zhu Xi's Collected Commentaries (above). Here are other commentaries side by side: for old commentaries, the first line of the sub-commentary with a link to the woodblock scan; for modern editions, one short quoted translation for comparison. The “compared with Zhu Xi” notes are written by Yikonglu, not quoted.

皇侃《论语义疏》Liang dynasty · 1750 Japanese woodblock edition · juan 七

“云子路問事君者,問孔子求事君之法。”……

woodblock scan vol. 4 p. 38About this edition

钱穆《论语新解》modern, short quote

“子路问事君之道。”

About this edition

Compared with Zhu Xi

CommentaryPointRelationConfidenceNote
钱穆《论语新解》samefairly sure同以犯为犯颜谏诤、先勿欺再直谏;钱辨以不知为知、言过其实求君听亦近欺,朱以此矫子路之偏。

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